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Chrissy Canadian
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ridiculous!http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/p...61&cl=10599931&ch=6535903
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Chrissy Canadian
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quote: "the greeks have tried so many times to put their monk in our tomb"...... lol.... said the actress to the bishop
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Chrissy Canadian
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here is the story in case you can't see the video...
Armenian, Greek worshippers come to blows at Jesus' tomb
By The Associated Press
Tags: Church of the Holy Sepulcher
Dozens of Greek and Armenian priests and worshippers exchanged blows in Christianity's holiest shrine on Palm Sunday, and pummeled police with palm fronds when they tried to break up the brawl.
The fight is part of a growing rivalry over religious rights at Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built over the site where tradition says Jesus was buried and resurrected.
A fist-fight broke out after Armenian clergy kicked out a Greek priest from their midst, pushed him to the ground and kicked him, according to witnesses.
Two Armenian worshippers were briefly detained by police. Scores of Armenian supporters staged a protest outside the police station during the questioning of the two, beating drums and chanting.
The Holy Sepulcher is shared by several Christian denominations according to a centuries-old arrangement known as the status quo.
Each denomination jealously guards its share of the basilica, and fights over rights of worship at the church have intensified in recent years, particularly between the Armenians and Greeks.
The Eastern Orthodox churches, including the Armenians and Greek Orthodox, follow a different calendar than Western Christians and began Easter Week observances on Sunday.
Father Pakrad, an Armenian priest, said the presence of the Greek priest during the Armenian observances violated the status quo. Our priests entered the tomb. "They kicked the Greek monk out of the Edicule," he said.
Pakrad accused the Greek Orthodox of trying to step on the Armenians' rights. "We are the weak ones, persecuted by them for many centuries."
The Greek Orthodox Patriarch in the Holy Land, Theofilos III, told The Associated Press "the Armenians are pushing to change the rules, and try to challenge was he said is the dominance of his church in the Holy Land."
"This behavior is criminal and unacceptable by all means," he said. "They wanted to trespass on the status quo concerning the order that regulates the services between the various communities."
Last year, pre-Christmas cleaning in the Church of the Nativity turned ugly when robed Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests went at each other with brooms and tones. The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem - built over Jesus' traditional birth grotto - also falls under the status quo arrangement.
The status quo divides the Holy Sepulcher among the Armenians, Roman Catholics and the Greek Orthodox who have the largest share. The Coptic, Ethiopian Orthodox and Syrian Orthodox churches also have duties to maintain specific areas.
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lil eva
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Good grief
How bloody stupid!
Whether they follow a different calendar or not,surely their overall beliefs are the same.
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Bravo
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I saw it on the news yes....my first thought was 'God almighty' then I realised the irony so I just thought it was a couple of gits arguing about who's god is best, when its the same one.
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Woodfold
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They talk about Muslim Extremists and then the Greek Orthodox and Armenian "Christians" come to blows. Fanatical religious nuts never cease to amaze me with the "reasons" they put forward why they are acting as they are. The Roman Catholics had "reasons" for the Inquisition, the early Church of England also had "reasons" for burning witches and warlocks and the followers of Islam have their own "reasons" for stoning women who have been raped and removing a thiefs hands. All this done in the name of a deity who is known as God, Jehova or Allah. The point is that this deity is the same whichever crede you follow.
I can understand why some people prefer to be aethiest or agnostic. Sometimes the simple list of "rules" we got from Moses on his stone tablets are all we need to live a good honest life. Why make life more complex than it needs to be.
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Baldrick
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You can call me daft if you like, but 'religion' has been the cause of more strife in this world than anything else.
Think back to the Crusades...Holy wars.
The Spanish Inquisition...People who thought differently were burnt alive.
I could go on. That's why I'm an atheist! Funny though, when I was young and impressionable I used to go to church, serve at the altar etc. Now you wouldn't get me near a church. Sheer hypocrisy. Look at Bishops riding round in chauffeur driven cars!! Not for me!
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